Oct 8th, by OMGchronicles. But if I were an unemployed man - regardless of age - would the same rules apply? Probably not although I imagine a certain amount of women would eagerly entangle themselves if he was hot; yes, we gals can be incredibly shallow, too. Unemployed, under-employed and low-income men are just not good dating or marriage material in the eyes of many women. It was actually easier without him. Earlier this summer, a study OK, funded by a credit report agency so I take it with a grain of salt indicated financial responsibility and financial compatibility was more important or just as important as career ambition, physical attraction and sex and intimacy, especially for women. Among the interesting questions posed:.
Spira backs this up by saying that these charming men will pull out all of the stops just so you'll fall for them. First, they'll pay for everything until you're interested, and then - bam! They reveal their true identity. But there's more.
Eventually, he'll stop paying for things and assume that you'll provide and pay for things most or all of the time. Does he only like to go to the fanciest restaurants? Does he have a penchant for Dolce and Gabbana?
Is he hounding you about taking a trip to Tuscany? According to dating and relationship coach Nicole Johnson"A man is dating you for your pecuniary prestige if he consistently proposes you go shopping together, makes continual references about traveling with you or constantly suggests going out to expensive venues. It's easy to go from talking about future romantic trips to suddenly paying for vacations. If you suspect that your man is dating you for your money, finding out whether or not he's in a lot of debt or if he's borrowed money and not repaid the loan is crucial.
The first step? According to Kirschner, you must "get them to talk about their last serious relationship or marriage and how it ended. You can find clues there. Beware of the man who doesn't accept responsibility for his lack of funds or poor credit score. They may complain, but they never leave their men because it gives the drama in life and something to talk about. It will not get any better, it will get worse. I have been where you are now.
I am so happy now. I own my own home, brand new car, credit card, all the stuff I need and want. But, I refuse to have a man who will take advantage of me financially, period. You will look back and realize after leaving him, you will feel so much better. I promise you! You can help him find solutions - job referrals, grants, social services, etc. If you let him know that and cut off the money supply, his true personality will be apparent. Stay strong, good luck, and please let me know how it goes.
You give him money. Think about that. I too, have the same feelings about my last relationship. We still remain best friends today, but he really wants to get back together. There were times where I gave him money during our relationship some was a a loan, some just little stuff for gas or food because I felt so bad for him. He also craved affection.
For a long time, I ignored my own feelings and made myself believe that many of the things he said were gospel. One day I finally woke up. Yes he does work and have a car. This speaks volumes about my own self-esteem. This morning I had an epiphany on why I am no longer sexually attracted to him. He drives a car costing month! Huge loan. He blames market mortgage industry crash and his divorce. This is also the short story. I have always sometimes reluctantly worked, and bring in average wages.
Anthough I do not live for money, I understand that it is a necessity to have some money, just to live or else you are living of charity essentially. Now I never previously cared if a partner of mine had money or not, until now, since I have been dating someone for 3 months, who has no money. Tara, thanks for writing.
That said, a date can be free - there are free days at museums, gallery openings, street festivals, open mike nights at nightclubs, etc. Still, kind acts are free; I hope he gets with the program! Interesting whats written, i have been dating this guy for abit more than a month, he said he is a freelancer designer and director infact he is but he is not doing great business as such market is tight at our place.
I am 24 with degree and good stable earning he is 26 have an art certificate. I paid for most dinners and food plans we have a plan to go out of the country for new year and i think its on me :. He knows the problem and looking for a job but this is tiering. I would like some input as to how I can turn down someone, without seeming like a horrible person. I met someone online, we had a lot in common and messages back and forth were funny, full of great conversation, really good stuff. He lives in a rooming house with 4 other people and they share a landline phone.
I had made it clear in my profile that I wanted to meet someone with whom I could purchase a home so that I can run my home-based business efficiently divorce put paid to that, but I could go half on a suitable place.
He thinks we have what it takes to get along romantically, says he still wants to meet and that I will change my mind. However, because I was raised to be polite and not ignore people, I would like to know how to turn him down without coming across like an awful person. Any ideas?
Tina, thanks for commenting. Yes, you can agree that there may be many things you share in common although he is saying that; are you? But if he balks at that, I would certainly question why.
And that is not being impolite. Hi I been living with. Guy for 3years he has not being working sincehe drive my car I pay for his medical insurance food and cell phone allowance and I help him with pocket money he says if I love him I can give him loan or open a business for him, he says he is tired of watching me me being rich and eating my money, is it my resposibility to help him with opening. The bigger question is, do you want to?
Is there a plan in place to become more equal partners if you want that? Are you having those kinds of conversations - and can you have them without conflict? If you loan him money for a business, what is his plan to pay you back and is it a viable business, and is he a good businessman? As of now, sadly I am unable to work as an old injury i sustained when i was in school got worse, and now i am on disability, pay my bills, have my own place, but as it said in the article, i get zero replies as i am looking for a long term relationship since i would rather not spend the rest of my life on my own.
If you see someone who is greedy, then it reflects in someone who wants someone who will look for someone who has a lot of money. I know that is contrary to a lot of what i have been seeing, but i have been looking around so much, and it is all i have been seeing from so many posts on many different sites, greed, not security or stability. If someone wants to be stable, i applaud them for being honestly stable, but to turn away and scoff at people because others thing they are a burden?
Do not get me wrong, just because i have not found anyone i am not calling foul and unfair to single myself out, but when it is more than just myself, then it is worth calling foul.
My question is, is it wrong to date someone who is disabled? There are even dating websites geared toward disabled people. I saw all the things he could do. He was disabled in an accident as a child.
He said he wished he could take me some place better. I loved him completely.
Been there, done that. Even that sucks. Nothing but sea robins and spidercrabs in that murky water. I dont even cast my line anymore. But, That doesnt seem stop them from trying to jump into my boat. So I end up in alot of situations where women make their availabilty known in an effort to induce me into ask them out.
But I am a MGHOW if you dont know what that is google it so asking a woman out is out of the question and rejecting women does indeed give me a thrill. So, When I catch women eyeballing me, I politely initiate a conversation with some mundane question.
It may not seem like much but to a woman her self esteem is shattered. I consider that my good deed for each day. Snubbing these self entitled, self absorbed, narcissitic sociopaths is the highlight of my day and I recomend that every attractive man in this country indulge in this practice as often as possible. Its the least these worthless whores deserve. Do it for the community, do it because its right and do it because its fun.
It doesnt matter why you do it as long as you do it. Thank you. Thanks for the demonstration of what probably a number of people in your movement think about women. Sounding like a narcissist serial killer.
Dec 26, Women aren't obligated to date a man who is struggling. If we prefer someone who is more financially stable, that does not mean that . I lived with a man for 12 years, when I met him he was just beginning to write a book and being paid minimal for the writing of the book. 10 years later still no better financial situation and anything extra went on his credit card which was now maxed out. Books (2) done, no money for marketing, no income at except very low CPP. Notice how the man you are dating treats the dating process. If a man is not yet wealthy, all is not lost, but he needs to step it up in other cts of his wooing. He may not be able to bring you on an all expenses paid vacation to Saint Tropez, but he can treat you to a picnic at the local park or stargazing at the tiendakiteboarding.com: Alessandra Conti.
Thanks for writing, Brian. I can understand that you might be depressed by your romantic prospects; that said, that might be working against you in finding a partner.
There are some women who would want to be married to a SAHD and others who would be open to flexible arrangements; those are the women you need to find. To do that, you might need to reframe your story and attitude, and embrace the great skills and nurturing personality you have.
That is very attractive to many women. He died a year ago and I was injured six months ago. First, please try to take as much care of yourself physically and intellectually as you can squeeze in. I know how hard it is to squeeze seconds. If history is hard to face, maybe something in related fields or something brand new.
Practice being friendly with everybody - men, kids, dogs, as well as women until it feels normal again. You might expand to somebody a little older or financially secure. Most women I know value character more than anything.
Those same women are looking for brains and interest in the world. If he loves you he will get a job of some sort and be a man who will contribute. I wouldnt really care if he made less than me.
Motivation and getting out there and trying to help pay bills or get you a cheap christmas present that he bought with what he had. Anyone can sit and cry and be a taker.
Most men want to contribute. Could not have put it more perfectly. I am a female making above average wages. My boyfriend of 3. We were afforded the same opportunities but I have moved up in pay drastically in a few short years, mostly because I have worked my ass off and demanded more. I have worked very hard to put myself in a position to spend money as I please and he makes comments about my spending habits that bother me.
We have recently started talking marriage and are nowhere on the same page for the price of the ring.
Yes, he is a pretty great guy, for the most part. I just want to see some kind of determination to better himself in any way, which I have not. Then he started applying to jobs where he actually makes LESS! Not the most important but it is definitely important. I was in the same situation but I was married to my husband for 17 years. We got together after High School and had 2 kids. I earned double what he did and I too earned my wages in a short time frame in 4 years by working my ass off and demanding more.
He kept getting more and more into debt too. We are separated now and the way he still treats me after our break up proves to me that I made the right decision to leave.
Well ladies, it works both ways. What do you bring to the table besides sex? Apparently some women think just having a vagina is enough. You must have a steady job with a good attendance record.
Dating a guy with no car, job, or money.?
Single motherhood, in most cases, is a sign of irresponsibility and making bad choices. I see personal ads online with huge lists of requirements then see a morbidly obese, tatooed single mom making the demands.
Of course us men must appreciate you as you are, jellyrolls of fat included. We are supposed to be so flexible and understanding while most of you accept nothing less than perfection from a man.
Ah, the double standards of feminism! Now, 40 percent of women are the breadwinners in their family, thanks to feminism, and there are more than a million men who are SAHDs.
Really, no one wants to go back to the days when women had to marry for financial security. I know you wrote this in February, but I needed to chime in. Feminism has done some nasty things to our ever so evolving society. I am not going to lecture you here about my views, since persuading such a perspective is ever rarely listened to, however I will say that it is true that women are able to rise to sky in every financial facet and are now capable of showing supremacy over a household.
With that said, there is no denying that, because of this, there is and will be more men who will not want to marry in fear of divorce and of a growing presence of emasculation. For those not familiar with this paradigm, It would be wise to take a step back and give this some thoughtYes, times have changed either for the better or for worse, but there is no denying there is a gender role struggle.
There is nothing wrong with being a SAHD.
I have no problems there. However, it is natural for a man most to have instincts that motivate his sense of purpose - to be the provider, bread winner, protector of his family. Take that away from him, and the result is A man who will accept his fate as the men who equate themselves to anything less than satisfactory - without aspiration. Thanks for commenting, 3rd Derivative. And, for the record, feminism did not strip those traditional-minded men from their jobs or fates - technology, job outsourcing, the decimation of unions, the Great Recession, etc.
Nothing is stopping you or any other man from having that reality. Find a woman who wants you to be the breadwinner and provider, and wants to be what you want her to be, and go have a happy life.
I wish you the best. I appreciate the reply back. To your questions. But to answer your question, of course - I agree with you. They can bring home an income and be wonderful caregivers for their kids, but the message I was trying convey to you is that since we learn gender roles early on, it is to no surprise why as young boys, one would learn values that are geared more towards homeward stability and success, rather than other virtues, i.
Now you are right, not all men may feel this way, a good percentage of the American population may even agree with you, however you cannot deny that their are happy families with the man at the helm. This is subjective, any one person can blame the matter - especially if the opinions are biased.
I can easily say current feminism is to blame. A little unnecessary, no? I was simply stating my opinion on the negative cts of feminism. That is just how I feel. I noticed your tone started to become more aggressive the more I read on.
I can only conclude that you interpreted me wrong. That is unfortunate, but I get it. Any way kudos and best of luck to you. At the I have a very lucrative job and am well on my way to pay off my mortgage 10 years early and early retirement. We have had no fights or any issues in our relationship. He has maxed out his cards so he literally has no money.
As others have noted, he cares for me. He appreciates me. He cares about people and I know he feels awful. Lynn, thanks for writing. You are very right to help him get his financial ducks in a row and to ask him to come up with a plan. I dated a man who also owed back taxes and etc. But he started paying off the debt by working two full-time jobs. You need to see action and within some sort of deadline.
He would tell strangers i am a millionaire etc, all really embarrassing I am not, i have a good lot of assets, family inheritance put towards property which massively increased in value but cash wise, income wise i am very average.
I have two degrees and work as a professional and he ran his own business. Whenever we went out for dinner, i had to pay, groceries, i had to pay, weekends away, the inference that i had to pay unless i helped him out at his work for a few hours. Ugh so glad i got out of there. I did so for other reasons but once i did i looked back and saw i had been used all along for money. I suspected it but didnt sit and dwell much while it was happening. My tip is if you feel you are being used for money by some loser guy, you ARE being used, and run run run immediately.
The guy i am friends with now- well he is in unstable employment, casual work that changes each week. He lives in this unfathomable dumpand i mean a real bad ass student type dump. This is not for someone in their 40s. He could get something better, ie a room in a really nice share house for the same money.
But instead he lives in this horrible flat, that i only just saw recently. Ive lived in some horrid places in my 20s, but this, this takes the cake.
And he never has any money to go out. Why am i even interested? But i want him to want something better! And i am at the stage where i really want someone to be there for me, be able to rely on themand i dont know if i can with this guy. Is it shallow? Would you date a guy who makes a decent living he can afford his own bills, put money aside, and have money left over for fun even if he despised his work and had zero ambition to find another job or get a promotion?
I prefer to be single and poor than to be partnered and poor. A fiscally impoverished marriage is a gutting embarrassment. I am on a disability pension and live in a rented home. Decorating is not an issue as I am creative and resourceful. I keep my figure nice and I can afford high end anything I need. I have kept my age well due to 49 years of uninterrupted sleep and for selfishly guarding my fertility until the right provider might appear.
I can enjoy shallow pursuits such as shopping and caring for my looks. I read plenty of books of many genres so I see myself as well-versed in a few topics. I consider myself to be a good catch. Pretty house and garden.
A boudoir for a bedroom. My disability is invisible and I manage it very well. I have my ducks in a row, as small as they seem. Why would I want a penniless man to come along and stuff all that up? A man of means is an aphrodisiac to me. Realistically, at 49, things are looking bleak in the man department but in five years I know that will change for me. Besides, I love being single and celibate. I love being that mysteriously single woman in the room.
Call me a shallow bitch but at least I am not making a poor depressed man feel worse about his situation by basking in my own stringent but easy one, right under his nose. I know this article and response is rather old. But I would like to add my 2 cents. Married and divorced twice. I never wanted to be burdened beyond my means. Have some deformities that does interfere with some things that I do.
I have been working since I was My part time job is in a warehouse that is physically demanding. Despite my deformities, I persevere. The man I currently with, well at least up until last night, is also broke. We met about 3 months ago. I had no intention of pursuing him. I did call once and try to set up one meeting; he flaked. That was as far as my pursuing went. He would call me with excuses that I never believed, cared about or listened to.
Over time, he would make better efforts to be more available. But it never got as far as him coming to my place for sex. Our work schedules changed and it was difficult to see each other. So that was okay for the moment. This guy is a widow with 5 grown kids that he still takes care of 3 of them. He has a sister married to an affluent husband. She calls him constantly asking him to buy her things with his own money. He gets upset that she ask him for money, but buys things anyway.
He has asked me for money twice. Once for this sister and once for gas. I know what time it is, lol! Last week he wanted to borrow my car. I told him no. So then, he decided that I should meet his daughter and grandson, so that I can trust him more. Last night I met him at work. I have two jobs. I know that his phone is broke.
This was the conformation I was looking for. I told him. Sorry, but none of this is worth 5 minutes of good dick!!! He still wanted to see me after the things that I told him. But if I were to pursue this any further I know that it will be a constant guilt trip to make me provide for him. But I do have a stable job, I earn less than the average salary but I have a stable full time job.
Daniel, thanks so much for your thoughts. I observe that many women indicate that they want a man who makes a decent living, regardless of his other traits. Lots of people have that or some version; in fact, 1 in 4 have a mental illness, from mild anxiety to OCD my own son has that to bipolar to schizophrenia and beyond.
Add a low income, and. Again, you are not alone. Which means there are people with anxiety or who have compassion for those with anxiety who will be interested in connecting with others with a similar situation. I hope you recognize and celebrate all the great things you bring to the world; if you believe that, someone, and most likely a lot of someones, will see that, too. Also the basic fear of the actual going into a campus and meeting all the people etc which social anxiety so cruelly makes out to be much worse than it is.
Again, not you or the article more just the general vibe I have been getting from various other articles and the comments to these types articles. Also on the point of rather than see myself as not smart but rather focus on the things I am good at, that I am smart about.
Daniel, at least you can support yourself if you live with someone. Go to the library or something, learn, do what it takes and you will get there. I have trouble attracting financially irresponsible men. I married another manwho seemed VERY responsible with money during our courtship homeowner, steady job, attended university, in the Army.
However, he lost his job shortly after we married, deciding to drop out of college and change his career path. We relocated to a different state so he could attend trade school, and I started my career in education. He held temporary job after temp job, until finally working at a call center, but he was still always broke. NOT the reason we moved cross country! I have my own apartment, vehicle, career and life.
He is still unemployed and living with his band mate.
Sometimes u just gotta let ppl be who they are. Broke men have broke ways. His dead grandmother had bought him his vehicles in high school, and the Army had given him his fun money, by direct deposit. The only thing that could fix us is if I had complete control of our money and gave him an allowance.
I feel like I was reading my own story. Men who are broke like the men we attract are broken. The last two guys I dated sucked my dry while living the fun life. Staying up all night and sleeping all day. Giving me just enough attention to keep me hooked. I have hired a relationship expert to help me fix my picker. Because it is my fault these men come into my life.
I allow this behavior. And it needs to stop. I have to stop feeling sorry for these men and trying to take care of them and fix them. They have a mama. Go drain her bank account. I am a successful business woman who has her own money, car, etc. Basically I have my shit together. I am like fly to fly paper for men who have no money.
Listen, I do not mind dating a man who has a job that makes less than me. Money is not an issue at all.
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This last guy was very charming in the beginning. Took me out for dinner. Wined and dined me. I got hooked and liked him a lot. Then he drops the ball that he is broke and has no money. Do not worry I will pick up the tab this weekend. Up until 3am drinking beer, smoking cigars and watching tv. He would get up around noon and start the pattern all over again. He would cook dinner but other than that nothing.
There was no compassion. And when he did finally go back home I did not hear from him again until he was ready to see me again. Which means he needed money.
As a grown woman, it's only hot if that band is U2. Of course, requiring that a man bring home the bacon like Bono is hardly behavior I'd condone (make your own moolah, babygirl), but as a woman who has dated the perpetually unemployed, I can tell you that expecting him to have a solid job, work history, and career-plan should be a no-brainer. OK this guy I'm talking to has no car, job or money.I really like his personality and he is attractive. I always want to hang out with him but its hard because I know I would be the one using my gas or paying for everything we do. I know I could just go to his house every once in a while but that. I think financial relationship stems from the type of women you date (this is just as true for a woman dating a man but as I am a man I'll talk from my perspective dating women). As an entrepreneur I date more outgoing and successful woman so there is never a worry about money.
I am sure! If he was cleaning my house. Taking care of my dogs. Helping me with my move. Changing the oil in my car, etc. I would have totally been okay with supporting him. But after a month I started to feel used and taken advantage of. Plus I found out he was lying about being in school. Why lie to me? That just added fuel to the fire. I wish I had of followed my first mind n ran as soon as I learned his situation. I am currently dating an unemployed man that is recently divorced. He has prior old felonies from over 20 years ago and got into a verbal alteration that led to his ex filing a restraining order against him last year.
I put together his resume because I volunteered in the unemployment center. Therefore, he has gotten many job offers. However, the restraining order shows up once the background check comes back. His ex refuses to remove it out of spite, yet she still calls him, harasses him and wants him back.
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He has put her on speaker phone. Despite warning signs and his lack of money, I have fallen for him. I too have found myself paying for almost everything if we go out etc. Most times are spent at my house or doing free stuff.
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No gifts on holidays or my birthday. Everything is about him struggling n trying. Yes he works temp jobs but its just enough to buy his toiletries and a bus pass.
He has nothing much at all. No house, no car, no steady job and 3 outfits. We have great chemistry, mind blowing sex but honestly, its not enough. At times it feels like he gets all my benefits for free. I have put men off that can and have actually helped me, just to give him a chance because I see potential in him.
I have become resentful and irritated at times. I care but I dont want to commit to a broke man. Money really does make a difference in a relationship. Its a sinking, sufficating feeling to be in this kind of relationship.
Your partner should be an asset not a constant bill.
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Thanks for commenting Tosh. No one can take advantage of you unless you allow it. Great sex and chemistry aside, if you want a future that looks different, you may have to make a hard choice. I wish you the best! I own my condo and car. I recently started dating a great guy that is 59 has a 1st and 2nd mortgage on a k home plus is making payments on his 9 yr old car. Being upfront about money is hard when you are transitioning from dating to a relationship.
It is hard. But it has to be dealt with. Disparate spending values are definitely a challenge to negotiate. I still feel that if you allow people to pay for you, you are giving them some amount of control over you so I am uncomfortable allowing people to pay.
Jan 11, My girlfriend and I have been dating for over 2 years. She's very intelligent and hard-working. She's currently in her last year of college and about to go to medical school. She tends to be successful at whatever she does. I've been out of colleg.
Once I have decided that me and a guy are an item which is rareI have no problem treating him to lunch or dinner. If he pays for dinner I always take care of the tip.
One thing that I have learned is if the person your trying to start a relationship is horrible with their money, and not willing to change. Sounds like the girl your friend Dylan was courting was after a sugar daddy.
In my opinion, those types of relationships never work out over the long run. Beliefs and philosophies about money have to be ballpark compatible for a relationship to turn more serious. He was smart enough to catch this right away. I never let the girl pay for meal in dates. Based on experience, topic about money comes in later on when relationship is getting a bit serious. It just feels wrong to let the girl pay. I think the earlier you talk about money, the better.
I thought that since I was the one who had asked them out, I should be the one paying for the meal. Perhaps the guys thought that regardless of who asked who, the guy should be the one to pay for the first date. With my fiance, I paid on the second date, and from then on we just alternated. He explained them in a way that gave me the impression he had learned from these and had grown wiser in the ways of money.
Not so. Cannot believe it. I paid my zero prevent car loan off as soon as I could because I hate debt. I feel like a heel. You are treating them to a lovely day out. The biggest rule with money and dating is to never let money cause awkwardness. When the girls talk a lot for equal rights as men then why do they try to shy away from sharing the financial burden. A lot of people also think that whoever asked for the date in the first place man or woman should pay, which I understand too.
My Goodness. This article has restored my hopes!!! Great article and seeing it from the mans prospective. I feel so guilty about the subject of who pays on dates. I agree that a man should pay on the first date or even the second, It is always the attitude of shut up and pay as the man but I work too.
Although I make a decent income I am not rich and I do have bills just like the next person. I tend to have a problem when a date never asks to pay for a tip or at least a share the bill after a while. It just makes me feel that they are taking advantage of the situation and I would not want to be with someone like that for a long-term relationship. I am about to bring up this subject after being on a 4th date. I like the traditional way and when man takes care of the woman.
I find it extremely manly, classy, and impressive. Both sexes should respect and appreciate each other for who they are. Woman this days, do really make their life harder. I see it among my acquaintances. I would never date a man who would expect me to split bill red flagand in fact it never happened. Aftet 2 weeks of dating she asked me to buy her groceries and put gas in her car! I told her she really haf balls to ask me something like that and told het hell no!
She called me cheap!!! I told her to keep surfing the web and terminated all contact. If you approached the conversation like that for sure. If you take a moment to understand how your date communicates than you should be able to fully understand the best way to approach them about splitting a date or trading off financial responsibilities surrounding paying for a date.
I personally like to be courted. People get very complacent and it kills the romance. Maybe I am old fashioned. I think that sounds evolved. Everyone has their own approach when it comes to dating. Perhaps age is part of it. I am in my 40s. There is no hard rule, but I follow the idea of a man wanting to be the provider.
I hear you! I think it ultimately comes down to your preference and how you jive with the other person! I always offer to split the bill. As the relationship continues it makes sense to alternate efforts.
That could be by cooking a meal or alternating in paying for the bill. Sometimes a guy will insist on paying on the first few dates and then drop off and expect home cooked meals from then on. My partner makes me travel two days with my car across the country to pick him up where he flys too meet me for our vacation because he is too cheap to rent a car, or pay for my plane fare. Yet he books more lavish expensive vacations with other women, and does not invite me!
Needless to say I ended this relationship. Ge also lies all the time when he does stuff with other women! Oh the list goes on.